Final Fantasy XIII on 360 not because of money
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Marketing boss Albert Pennello assured gamers today that Final Fantasy XIII’s appearance on the Xbox 360 is not because of money.
Rumours have recently been circulating suggesting Microsoft “bought” the game to Xbox 360 despite previous confirmation from Square Enix claiming exclusivity to Sony. Pennello however suggests this is not the case.
“I think a lot of people assume a lot of things about why Square made that announcement,”
he said, talking in MundoRare.
“I think the most obvious reason that they made the announcement is just looking at the success of our console. I mean, we’re the leading console on a worldwide basis, we’re more than double the install base on the US.”
“I actually think it’s a great partnership. Square has done games for us in the past, and I think there’s a point where Square just has to look at the Xbox 360, the install base and attach rates that we’re seeing and actually has to make a decision on their own that it’s the right thing to do for them.
“So, I think people make a lot of assumptions about what they read or the rumours that go around, but the reality of a lot of this is that we’re doing very well, we have a great install base, we have passionate gamers like you guys that buy a lot of games, and a publisher like Square can’t ignore that.
“I think it’s easy to assume that something’s going on behind the scenes, I think the more obvious answer is we’re doing really well and the game creators want their games to be where the most people and the most consoles [are], and right now that’s the Xbox 360.”
Source: Mundorare
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August 8, 2008 pm31 7:04 pm
I smell corporate bull****.
August 8, 2008 pm31 7:33 pm
It is about money, whether or not it is Microsoft buying things or SquareEnix’s greedy intentions. Business in anyway shape or form is about money otherwise they wouldn’t be a company competing for your dollars in the videogame business. However they want to spin it is and always has been about money.
August 8, 2008 pm31 7:52 pm
That’s a load of BULL.
Obviously, Microsoft believes that “money talks.”
However, Sony believes that “loyalty sings.”
…
And that’s what separates the two companies. Microsoft is a cheating, decieving, evil tyrant; and Sony is an honorable loyalty. When Sony becomes betrayed, it does nothing. Because if Sony did something like, per say, release a really great first party exclusive that Microsoft couldn’t compete with, Microsoft would know that it had an effect on Sony, and would continue to buy out third party exclusives. See? Microsoft hasn’t gotten to Sony. Sony doesn’t care. Screw Square. They have better games than FFXIII. I have better expectations for Versus. Versus has the Kingdom Hearts type fighting style, and I enjoy that way more than “turn-base 3.0.” But that’s my opinion.
In the business world, everyone puts on a mask and becomes the nice guy to the press. Can’t you people understand that when someone’s not in disguise? When someone just wants to offer you the best experience where you aren’t subjected to suffering from your enjoyment? That’s the PS3. Microsoft doesn’t care enough, or else it would take all the consoles back and fix the RROD with better processing power and memory. Duh.
August 8, 2008 pm31 8:00 pm
It’s funny how people think MS buys exclusives as if no other company does it.
And when they come out and say it wasn’t about the money everyone calls foul, because people made up there own mind already.
It’s a no win situation.
Sony fans cry and moan over the exclusive lost, saying “it’s Always been a SONY game”… but yet forget about FF on Nintendo systems.
Remember the GTA3 on PS2 and how the spent much mula to keep it their game… ya everyone forgets.
August 8, 2008 pm31 8:05 pm
Lol,
Sony defence force to the rescue.
Sony is an honourable loyalty.
Are you serious?
Do you think sony are not as bad as MS?
They always play fair don’t they.
Clearly small memories.
Remember last gen?
remember their “promises” this gen?
But keep lapping it up.
August 8, 2008 pm31 8:05 pm
And this is coming from an xbox 360 marketing boss. Nuff said.
August 8, 2008 pm31 8:08 pm
Dude, don’t take this to far Sony used to buy exclusives last gen and the one before that. Also, I do believe Microsoft bought the exclusive, but it doesn’t matter though because all the money M$ spends on downloadable content and timed exclusives is money that is not going towards building their internal studios. So who knows where M$ will be next-next-gen when third party exclusives are eliminated and a company has to rely on their internal studios to churn out exclusives.
August 8, 2008 pm31 8:11 pm
A few months ago, I would bet money you were saying how FF XIII would never make it on xbox because ps3 rox and -ps3 play b3yond and all that. Look at you now, because its coming to xbox you suddenly lose interest in it?
When you read over your own words dont you look like the biggest fan boy. Microsoft is “money talks”
Sony is “loyalty sings” Come on! Are you on their payroll?
They are the ones who stripped out the emotion engine from the newer ps3s to save money. Losing perfect emulation with ps2 games. Alienating potentially millions of ps2 users. Where is the loyalty in that?
I am not a big fan of the rrod either, but come on dude. “suffering from your enjoyment?” you should be embarrassed. Competition is good for everyone, including us the gamers.
August 8, 2008 pm31 8:16 pm
this is ******** too.
square didnt ****ing sell out and publish FF13 on 360 cause they wanted money. in fact they are losing money ive seen petetions signed by people. over 1.3 million people on the PS3 now REFUSE to buy FF13 for the PS3, in an attemt to teach Square a lesson. the lesson is that they NEED the playstation brand.
if square REALLY just wanted to EARN more money and wasnt paid off, then they STILL wouldnt have gone to 360. the PS3 is selling much much faster than the 360 and is getting closer to surpassing 360 in install base every day. if square would have opened their fucking eyes they would have seen that and they would have seen that FF13 as an exclusive on PS3 would be a MASSIVE system seller. if it stayed exclusive to PS3 there would most likely be a shortage of PS3s the month the game is released. this game would have sold at LEAST a million just in preorders, but they’ve lost 1.3 million customers because of their idiocy.
360 owners dont give a **** about FF13. they never got a taste of it on an xbox console besides 11-which sucked BTW-so most people probably dont even want to buy the game on xbox. square is going to see MASSIVE sales on FF versus 13 and Agito, but they are going to lose money on production of FF13
August 8, 2008 pm31 8:18 pm
@ 911 gaming
RSX sux. That’s why sony needed to tout cellBE/rsx as a “combined rendering array” in the PS3. Face it, an admittedly superior processor will waste its glorious architectural advantages over the 360’s xenon merely because RSX is a FULL generation behind the Xenos. Xenos is an HD2xxx equivalent gpu, whose direct competitor was the geforce 8xxx series. the RSX is a 7 series.
August 8, 2008 pm31 8:23 pm
Sony is not a privately owned company you rubes. Stock holders call the shots, and I doubt even a quarter of them are Japanese. Your speak of Sony as if their Samurai warriors. The best fictional work I could think of that might apply to these two companies is “Spy vs. Spy”, both will do whatever they have to do to succeed. This good guy vs. bad guy crap is retarded. In business there’s no honor, loyalty or crying , just business. Take off your rose colored glasses, tell your imaginary friend to leave you alone and get off the crack.
August 8, 2008 pm31 8:33 pm
Kudos to 911 Gaming
He know’s whats up
and to add to all that
the gaming industry was just fine before M$ came into the picture… they started charging for this and that, witch eventually gets to the developers saying “Hey, why not charge more?” just because M$ is doing it…. If not the freggin level packs in COD4 would’ve been free… cause I mean… they DID announce they were going to be free on PS3, but instead started charging cause M$ gets royalty off of it
August 8, 2008 pm31 8:39 pm
911Gaming is 11 years old.
Of Course everybody is in it for the money. Its called a business. Microsoft & Sony are in it for the long haul to make $$$$$$$$$. Do you seriously think Sony has not paid a dime for loyalty. Really? Sony paid up the wahzuu during the PS1 & PS2 days to gain exclusives. They made the investment to make $$$$ and create lOyaLty. Why don’t you ask Sony why they paid/incentives to movie studios during the Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD war?
“Microsoft doesn’t care enough, or else it would take all the consoles back and fix the RROD with better processing power and memory.” Do you honestly believe all 360 owners has the RROD? Microsoft has extended their warranty to 3 years from the date of purchase or blt date. And the replacement unit addresses the issues that causes RROD (its not CPU or RAM related either). Why do you think the PS3 has to load (5-25 minutes) most of their games to the hard drive? Duh, design flaw (internal bottle necks)that Sony is slowly addressing. Kaz even stated the PS3 has internal design hardware flaws that software is gonna have to fix. Notice all the updates lately.
So don’t give me this bull about loyalty. I have both systems and they are both great game consoles!
August 8, 2008 pm31 8:56 pm
First this guy has no credibility he works for M$ whats he going to say?
Second the first sign of a liar is even addressing the issue, if you have to try and bury the rumor then there is some truth to it. Guess M$ hates when their dirty laundry is out in the open and the backlash that Square-Enix must be recieving is fueling these statements. M$ paid for this, thats the bottom line. This is how they work and have worked since the company was founded. I don’t encourage their behavior but this is what monopolies do kids.
August 8, 2008 pm31 9:04 pm
Im still unsure even before this article is MS handed out money, the potential sales could of changed SE’s mind..
Also if you view: http://www.finalfantasyseries.net/square-enix-to-make-or-break-in-2009
SE commented in their report they will try an spread FF around more…
August 8, 2008 pm31 9:15 pm
Wow, people really need to stop whining about FF also being on the 360, it’s not like it’s no longer going to be on the PS3. Oh and to everyone who is saying that Square isn’t being loyal to Sony, this should come as no surprise to anyone, they branched over to Sony AFTER the FF were on Nintendo systems. So they weren’t “loyal to Nintendo either. Why does it seem that every Sony fan boy seems to think that FF games belong to Sony? Just because FF7 was successful on the PS1 doesn’t mean that the FF games can only be on Sony’s game systems. Now if you will excuse me I am going to go play some classic FF games on my old Nintendo systems. (Yes, I do know that no Nintendo system could run FF13 with its current graphics, but that doesn’t mean that they couldn’t scale back the graphics and bring FF back to its roots, If they could make FF12 look as good as it did on the PS2, they could make 13 look decent on the Wii.
August 8, 2008 pm31 9:32 pm
Until this person comes out and says that “we did not pay SE any money”, this is not a denial.
August 8, 2008 pm31 9:34 pm
OMG, can the idiots stop whining please, lets look at it this way. If today was happening when PS came out, and there was 3 GOOD systems, and Playstation was number 2.. do you really think FFVII would have been only on Playstation 1? I highly doubt it, the only reason FF has only been on Sonys system because it has been so successful and dominating other systems that were out. But now, the tides have turnt…. its almost like deja vu, FFVII was suppose to be on Nintendos system, but then it switched to Playstation, now fast forward ahead, FFXII was only suppose to be on Playstation 3 and now its coming out for 360…what goes around comes around i guess. Square is in to make money, once you guys realize that.. youll stop whining about it.
August 8, 2008 pm31 10:15 pm
This is the dumbest post I have ever seen everyone with half a brain knows its all about the $$$. Developers and Publishers could care less about core gamers. Just back the dump truck up and pull out the $$$
August 8, 2008 pm31 11:44 pm
What is with Sony boys, really?! They are just GAMES folks, that’s all. Contrary to what many believe, Sony and MS work together all the time…who do you think probably built the very software Sony uses for their databases? Record keeping? Game devolpment? VAIO PC’s for chrissakes?
Fact is Sony was the big dog with the demise of Sega and with Nintendo’s continued insitence on using proprietary game formats (still do…). MS got in the market because of the apparent void that left, not to mention as video games became more and more PC-like (the 1st Xbox IS a computer), it was very easy for them to make the jump considering they have been making PC games for quite some time.
Sony nor MS is immune to making mistakes, so lets just be honest for once. MS has built a great system, pushing the boundaries for online while everyone else is still playing catch up. Sony revolutionized the industry with the PS1, the first ‘mature’ gaming system that didnt suck ballz. Kudos to both.
August 9, 2008 pm31 12:14 am
This is my problem with the Whole thing…
1st off this is a Microsoft Rep talking so he is obviously protecting his ass and his companies ass by denying the truth. I mean he says things like
“I think the most obvious reason that they made the announcement is just looking at the success of our console. I mean, we’re the leading console on a worldwide basis, we’re more than double the install base on the US.”
Ya he would like to think that wouldn’t he? The leading console worldwide is the Nintendo Wii, not the 360. Yea the Wii & PS3 don’t have the highest attach rate of games, but that is because the 3rd Parties don’t like making games on the Wii because they don’t sell as well as 1st parties and they don’t want to really try, although that may be turning around soon. As for the PS3 the attach rates for games is low because comparativly to the 360 the PS3 hasn’t sold as well. FFXIII may have been a system seller but now it’s just another multiplatform game. There is a big problem with the industry and that is there not taking chances at least in the 3rd party arena.
- Nintendo took a chance with motion control and we got the Wii
- Sony took a chance and went the High Technological Route and we got the PS3. Unfortunatly we ended up with a MSRP that was way to high. So there we have a low install base.
- Microsoft took a chance releasing the 360 early and ended up being first for a while out but unfortunatly ended up with the RRoD. Now costing them millions to fix.
So where’s the problem? Well both Sony & Microsoft are trying to copy Nintendo with the Motion Controls. Which will probably become a industry standard just like Rumble,Analog Control,D-pads,3D graphics. Although those last two would have been introduced eventually weather Nintendo introduced it or not. Now Mii’s are being copied and may or may not become an industry standard.
So what has Microsoft recently copied. Mii’s, Motion Controls,taking 3rd party exclusives. Now what did Microsoft Innovate XBOX Live. So Sony is trying to copy Microsoft with some form of XBOX Live.
In the end although emulation is the sincerist form a flattery, we need some originality in the industry. Microsoft is trying to buy all the 3rd party exclusive essentally playing catch up while Sony is focusing on 1st party exclusives and Nintendo is in there own little world innovating new items.
Personally my biggest problem with all of this is Sequal upon Sequal is released over and over again. Square Enix needs to put equal focus on some of their other series such as, Kingdom Hearts,The Mana Series etc etc etc… Instead of coming out with 4 FF games in one year. Where’s the Innovation & Originality there?
August 9, 2008 pm31 1:33 am
So how is microsoft making money when they spend millions on taking exclusive, millions in advertisement(PS3 launch in europe Mcrosoft’s boats of Xbox 360 hearts you?)
Their in it for business? Ha. MS is currently in it to cause as much possible damage to Sony. Since Microsoft does NOT like Sony. Why haven’t they targetted Nintendo? Nintendo is currently the obvious winner.
Media fails by spreading false information we already know to be true. SE is just trying to sound like that wasn’t the real deal. lol cry us a river SE man up and tell the truth no one is gonna kill you for it. They will however eat up and chew out Microsoft.
Yet the one loosing money out of their pocket for this is MS. Sony is just loosing a 3rd party exclusive which well….they can’t really match MS money to begin with and SE is actually winning money but loosing reputation.
/gg MS, Sony, and SE are idiots at the end of the day.
August 9, 2008 pm31 3:02 am
the title of the article is BS
EVERYTHING is about money.
Even if microsoft didn’t purchase FFXIII over, square did it, cause they want more sales.
and sales = money -_-
August 9, 2008 pm31 3:09 am
I love how M$ and Square both deny that no money changed hands, but there is no way in hell that it didn’t. This game still would have sold millions of copies on the PS3 even if it was exclusive and square would have made back their investment, so M$ crap about their attach rate is a moot point. That said, I don’t blame square for taking the money and going muliti-plat, that’s just business. Just don’t patronize us gamers and think that we can’t see the writing on the wall. Seriously Squeenix, just tell us that you took the money and save face.
August 9, 2008 pm31 3:51 am
Of course it’s because of money. Square Enix will be making more money with the game on two consoles rather than one. It’s all about money for them. This article title is complete nonsense.
August 9, 2008 pm31 4:58 am
As you all know, (Or don’t, considering you read my posts) I post replies to everyone who posted about me, and then write a really long one that reiterates what someone has already written [usually by a negative poster. I still give feedback to positive posters :D] and I prove them evil little people’s wrong. U can guarentee you that they will either not respond, or say something similar to “screw you” because they can’t prove their own word.
Okay, so… first message…
@Lol
“Lol,
Sony defence force to the rescue.
Sony is an honourable loyalty.
Are you serious?
Do you think sony are not as bad as MS?
They always play fair don’t they.
Clearly small memories.
Remember last gen?
remember their “promises” this gen?
But keep lapping it up.”
Yes, I’m serious. I was going to say that Sony is very honorable and loyal, but then again, why would you respond? That’s not nearly as stupid. You wouldn’t respond to something like that.
Oh yeah, I don’t know if Sony are as bad as M$ (oh god, its like a trend, I’m doing the Microsoft with the dollar sign now too! I’m so giddy!) because I’m never sure if something “are” as bad as something else. I’m only sure that Sony “is” not as bad, but can still be ugly. The way Sony Playstation plays it, they made a console for a larger basis of teen and mature audiences, Nintendo is, and has always been more family oriented, and Xbox is like that console that’s just in it for the money. It works as a business, Playstation works as a loyalty to gamers. “We promise we will have this game out by the so-and-so quarter” and its out. [don't count Home, its never had a "release" date.]
When did they not play it fair? The only unfair thing is where they get their material from, to make the console, which, by the way, is the same material M$ makes its console. So don’t get miffed.
By the way, I will keep lapping it up. As soon as I figure out why you decided to use “lapping it up” to top of your statement; even moreover, why you used the statement in the first place. Did you mean laughing it up? That’s the most common statement, and is the original.
@Surprised
“When you read over your own words dont you look like the biggest fan boy. Microsoft is “money talks”
Sony is “loyalty sings” Come on! Are you on their payroll?
They are the ones who stripped out the emotion engine from the newer ps3s to save money. Losing perfect emulation with ps2 games. Alienating potentially millions of ps2 users. Where is the loyalty in that?
I am not a big fan of the rrod either, but come on dude. “suffering from your enjoyment?” you should be embarrassed. Competition is good for everyone, including us the gamers.”
I do get a check in the mail every week for 20 grand… hey… how’d you know I’m on their pay roll? Are you on it too? Don’t be modest, now!
…
I know that competition is good. I know that if we didn’t have competition, then the game industry would be like: “well, whatcha gonna do about it?” I mean, Nintendo already does that. But that is exactly why there are two systems out. I just don’t want Xbox to take over, because they do believe that, “money talks.” And when that happens, they’ll fade into another Nintendo of the today. It will then have the feeling you get with a new cell phone, or a PSP, similar to the Wii’s games. For about a month, you’re satisfied with your purchase. But after that, your attention span will wear, and you’ll at most play around with it for about half an hour, ten minutes maybe, then leave it be. Until you get some new feature, or some kind of new game, etc., they the usage increases for about an hour. And then decreases. Either that, or, they’ll ditch the home console and make home computers their main gaming business again. (Which, if you think about it, is a pretty high possibility).
And, yeah, I should be embarassed. No, worse, I should be ashamed. I spent the last hour and a half posting this dang thing! I could have been playing video games. See what happens. But, yeah, I do agree with you. Most of my post had fanboy written all over it. But that’s because I used to turn my self inside out till my blood was blue to defend Microsoft. Then they ripped me off in every shape and form. Do you understand?
@Fab
“RSX sux. That’s why sony needed to tout cellBE/rsx as a “combined rendering array” in the PS3. Face it, an admittedly superior processor will waste its glorious architectural advantages over the 360’s xenon merely because RSX is a FULL generation behind the Xenos. Xenos is an HD2xxx equivalent gpu, whose direct competitor was the geforce 8xxx series. the RSX is a 7 series.”
I’m sorry for the following statement but DO YOU SPEAK ENGLISH?! God.
Was this supposed to be a comeback, or something? I don’t… understand… at all. I don’t know what I have to “face it.” I don’t care about any of that stuff. Its not important to me. You win. Do you read English, too? I said “You Win.” I’ll say it again, “I give up.” Do you understand? Yes? Y-E-S? Yuh-yuh-yuh… slowly with me… yuh… eh… yuh eh… yuh… eh… esss? Yuh eh ess? Yes? I must apologize, I don’t speak “LIVES-IN-MY-MOM’S-BASEMENT.”
@Ignignokt
“Kudos to 911 Gaming
He know’s whats up
and to add to all that
the gaming industry was just fine before M$ came into the picture… they started charging for this and that, witch eventually gets to the developers saying “Hey, why not charge more?” just because M$ is doing it…. If not the freggin level packs in COD4 would’ve been free… cause I mean… they DID announce they were going to be free on PS3, but instead started charging cause M$ gets royalty off of it”
Kudos to you too. I don’t like paying for content that should have been free. Microsoft has introduced paying into the lines of “what-should-be-free” and made everything a nightmare. Thanks Microsoft. For trying to turn everything into money. Since you introduced the aspect, I now have to pay extra for HIGH SPEED INTERNET, DATA CHARGES ON MY CELL PHONE SERVICE, and CABLE TV. Thanks. I now hate you (oh, I am SO done with Microsoft that I am not even using Vista anymore. After paying $300 for a huge load of dissapointment, I’m finally switching to Mac [it arrives next week!] I’m so exited, and I’ve been reading the manual online to make sure I can figure it out. Yes, now, I have such a derrived hatred for Microsoft and $64 of shipping my Xbox 360 for RROD that I could have spent on a game, I am now going Mac.)
@SLope
Thanks for calling me eleven. It reminds me that I’m still young enough to game. Nice creativity, though. I really felt the crisp artistic “presence” using the reference of my name (nine - eleven) in your speech.
I like when people respond a long, elaborate essay. It makes me think. You know, when I get back from the mall after hanging out in the real world, with my friends. Not sitting at the computer typing messages to my everyday consent (yes, nag at me all you want, I am a closet gamer, nobody in the real world knows, and I don’t talk about gaming outside of this computer and my gaming consoles). Before you begin to flame at me about how I don’t “SHOW OFF MY GAMING CULTURE” and how much of a “fag” I am for such, lets leave that vibrantly colourful language behind and review your message:
“Why do you think the PS3 has to load (5-25 minutes) most of their games to the hard drive? Duh, design flaw (internal bottle necks)that Sony is slowly addressing.”
I’ve never had more than 20 seconds on any game of loading (Oblivion made it 20 seconds while loading up the game, but has the equivalent loading speeds of the 360 version, if not exactly the same), except for maybe a recalled “Sonic The Hedgehog” that I may say took about 3 minutes every checkpoint. By the way, that game was my last hope for Sega and its “Sonic” craze. I am never renting another Sonic game again [yep, that's right, my faith went to rent, not buy]. I forced myself through seven hours [that could have only been 2, if not for loading times] of a lagging load of heaping crap.
But never 5 minutes. NEVER EVER.
Wait, what? Design flaws? I’ve never heard any of these “design flaws” that Sony has ever issued to me? Can you state them for me please? The only “design flaws” were in the games, that some could be jerks and say were “lazily ported” but I’ll say “ported” to PS3, and did not operate properly. The only game I am aware of in that… would be… GTAIV for the 1st generation 20GB and 60GB models. That’s it; and they were game design flaws. And as I recall, there were many 360s had major problems loading GTAIV, such as RROD (I have personally gone through an Xbox 360 twice over GTAIV, and you may realize by now that after 4 fix-er-up-erz, I’d be pissed that M$ won’t fix my Xbox 360 anymore without buying a new one).
The design flaws you were speaking of were of M$’s design flaws. RROD, small HDD, no WiFi, lagged servers due to hyped games, LIVE costs money (god that one keeps coming up), the mic’s plastic part that goes on your ear snaps in two if you so much as put a grain of salt on it, controllers are battery eaters, space on games are wearing down the gaming industry’s full potential… do I state myself clear enough? Those are some serious flaws. Most of them not even continuing. And guess what? PS3 fixed all its flaws (ugly PS Store, no video download service, no in-game XMB; wait where is the Xbox 360’s?) but custom soundtracks and releasing some majorly hyped games which ARE RELEASING THIS YEAR AND THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR.
“Kaz even stated the PS3 has internal design hardware flaws that software is gonna have to fix. Notice all the updates lately.”
Kaz? Stated such a statement? I would like to see this. Please, show me. You have proof? I see no proof. Please? I would love to see it.
And what updates lately? I’d love an update every week. But they don’t happen. We got an update about a month ago and that was for the in-game XMB, later we got a fix. But its beem about a month since the last system update. How do you fix invisible internal hardware issues when they are 1) invisible and 2) HARDWARE? Hey. We’d all love something that physically updates itself with the latest graphics card or processor whenever we want it. But it doesn’t happen buddy. So, what “Hardware Updates?”
“So don’t give me this bull about loyalty. I have both systems and they are both great game consoles!”
Ah, the classic approach. I like it when people end it with positive. But really, couldn’t you just have written that instead of the entire message you wrote clearly stating “IHEARTXBOX360IHEARTXBOX360IHEARTXBOX360″?
August 9, 2008 pm31 7:38 am
Is really that hard for Square Enix to admit to accepting a truckload of cash and Microsoft sending the cash?
August 9, 2008 pm31 10:17 am
If MS is to blame then surely Sony is to blame partly for loosing exclusivity. If Square Enix-Sony relations were stronger this might not have happened.
Exclusivity and blame topic: http://www.finalfantasyseries.net/exclusivity-and-blame
Anyway i agree with 911 saying competition is good, maybe not so much in this case but overall i think things should be getting taster in the future between these consoles.
p.s Killzone 2 is going to be a hell of a game. Sadly i dont have a PS3, I have an Xbox360
August 9, 2008 pm31 12:19 pm
what is the big deal anyway if the game is release on the XBOX as well. If you like the game just buy and enjoy it.
If you have both consoles wait for the reviews to find out on which console the game works better.
August 9, 2008 pm31 12:38 pm
911 Gaming you said Microsoft is a cheating, decieving, evil tyrant; and Sony is an honorable loyalty
sony is guity of alot crimes being sued for the rumble feature . beimng sued for the DRM SPYWARE on their music cd . lying about how poerfull their consoles are . so don’t say bullshit like this and the fanboys can shut up as well .if MS says they did not pay for the game then they did not pay for the game why do there have to be so much bloody drama about FFXIII sqaue is doing rigt by itslef which is what a good company should do . the 360 have a massive usre base of course squre will take advantage of that what devoloper would not.
sony has share in square ms does not what does that say to you even with the big square sony relationship which has lasted years but it’s not the first time square has like one console comapany and it wont be the last .
Saviour
is it so hard for you to admit that they did not get over your self you are not a insoder don’t think you are .
to all the idiots if you don’t wan to play FFXIII shut the fuck up about it is childish you arte like kids who don’t want to play with a toy but wont stop crying over it .it’s piiterful it sad ver sad
to the ps3 user you are getting 2 full years before us 360 users so get used to it alot of games will be on the 360 we no longer live in a pure exclusive world . if i was aps3 owner i would sell it to get away from such idiots
August 9, 2008 pm31 4:13 pm
Ok 911 I had to respond.
You contradict yourself on numerous occasions and show how little you know.
“Yes, I’m serious. I was going to say that Sony is very honorable and loyal, but then again, why would you respond?”
So I’m not allowed to respond to anything or just you? Why would you respond to me? Why are you allowed to and not me? Do you make the rules? When having a discussion one person makes a point and someone else RESPONDS. Other wise how does a conversation continue? How do we learn about what other people have to say on the matter.
I doubt you would be crying so much about me responding if you agreed with my response.
“That’s not nearly as stupid.”
As what? responding only to ask why i would respond? Whats it like being a rocket scientist?
“You wouldn’t respond to something like that.”
Like what? you don’t make any sense?
“Oh yeah, I don’t know if Sony are as bad as M$ (oh god, its like a trend, I’m doing the Microsoft with the dollar sign now too! I’m so giddy!) because I’m never sure if something “are” as bad as something else. I’m only sure that Sony “is” not as bad,”
So you can say this is worse than this but cant ever see if something is the same? Oh not when its your beloved company. I see.
But they are an honourable company right?
If MS are evil and $ony (oh god I’m doing the whole $ thing now) are honourable then how can the be not as bad?
“but can still be ugly. The way Sony Playstation plays it, they made a console for a larger basis of teen and mature audiences, Nintendo is, and has always been more family oriented, and Xbox is like that console that’s just in it for the money.”
So sony only made the first machine to give to the world? Not for money? If sony aren’t in it for the money why didn’t the settle over the rumble? Why did they take it to court before begrudgingly paying up? Why didn’t they pay up to the scientist over Blu-ray? why did they take it to court only to begrudgingly pay up?
In fact type sony sued over into google and see what comes up. So much for an honourable company eh? so much for them wanting to give and not be in it for the money. Thats why I think there are as bad if not worse that ms.
“It works as a business, Playstation works as a loyalty to gamers. “We promise we will have this game out by the so-and-so quarter” and its out. [don't count Home, its never had a "release" date.]”
Enjoy the release date MGS sony promised? How many ethernet ports on the back of the console? how are the 120fps native 1080p 4d games? What about the two HDMI slots in the back of the console for two player? Hey, what about the original release date of the console? hows the BC? (we don’t have it in europe, only on the most expensive sku), what about their promise of no multiple sku’s? that BC is integral? Rumble is last gen and not needed right? How about the continuous delays for games? New game out, oh it freezes we need a patch? firmware updates bricking consoles?
Where’s the loyalty there?
“When did they not play it fair?”
Read above.
“The only unfair thing is where they get their material from, to make the console, which, by the way, is the same material M$ makes its console. So don’t get miffed.”
I’m not I refer you to above and that was of the top of my head.
“By the way, I will keep lapping it up. As soon as I figure out why you decided to use “lapping it up” to top of your statement;”
because of all the broken promises sony made and didn’t deliver on, look above, and you fans still quote them as being gospel but all i hear is “it will work next year” “next year we’ll be in front” “on release day we’ll be in front” (dont forget the 360 has beaten you the past couple of weeks and will do in japan so the tide could be turning, and they are still second, deny that without saying “next year we will be in front) and the best “teh pow3r of cell” “ps3 will deliver 10x the 360″ When will it? It’s barely keeping up so not even the same as. I know you don’t see things as being the same as. Btw why do you put are in quotations? I used the word correctly unlike your “sony is an honourable loyalty” Honourable loyalty? whats that? You should have said “not sure if something IS as bad”
“even moreover, why you used the statement in the first place. Did you mean laughing it up? That’s the most common statement, and is the original.”
Is it English teacher? given your poor grammar and the fact you spell honourable without a U, who are you to be giving English lessons?
Laughing it up might be the original in america but
1. it’s wrong for what I was using.
2. lapping it up was correct for the point I was making.
From a medical database
“Laughing it up can, and does, help counteract the negative effects of chronic stress on the body. Besides increasing blood flow in blood vessels, surprising results also show that laughing appears to increase your immune system response, lowers blood sugar levels in diabetics, and helps induce a state of relaxation promoting better sleep.
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Maybe you do need to laugh it up? Buyers remorse?
Lapping it up means someone tells you something and you believe it without thinking or question, the way a cat laps up milk when placed before it. Look it up.
Flipping eck your hard work.
August 15, 2008 pm31 2:56 pm
Ill tell you one thing - Im liking the new Sony Magazine, some good stuff in it!